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	Comments on: Observational Evidence for Flat Earth: Analyzing the Visibility of the Full Moon on June 22, 2024	</title>
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		By: Dr. Steven Alonzo (B.Sc. in Geocentric Cosmology)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2024 01:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Location: Western Suburbs &#124; Moon Altitude: 19.193°
Location: Melbourne &#124; Moon Altitude: 19.414°
Location: West Palm Beach &#124; Moon Altitude: 16.295°
Location: Bairnsdale &#124; Moon Altitude: 21.391°
Location: Izard County &#124; Moon Altitude: 15.451°
Location: Bethania &#124; Moon Altitude: 22.306°
Location: Jasper &#124; Moon Altitude: 13.094°
Location: Stark County &#124; Moon Altitude: 6.593°
Location: Post Falls &#124; Moon Altitude: 12.182°
Location: O‘ahu &#124; Moon Altitude: 32.447°
Location: Mesa &#124; Moon Altitude: 25.131°
Location: Nowra &#124; Moon Altitude: 22.715°
Location: Dunedin &#124; Moon Altitude: 39.707°
Location: Central Illinois &#124; Moon Altitude: 11.038°
Location: Palmerston North &#124; Moon Altitude: 43.317°
Location: Oklahoma &#124; Moon Altitude: 18.691°
Location: Gisborne &#124; Moon Altitude: 45.121°
Location: Cairns &#124; Moon Altitude: 11.673°
Location: East Tennessee &#124; Moon Altitude: 11.574°
Location: Wellington &#124; Moon Altitude: 42.720°
Location: St. Louis &#124; Moon Altitude: 12.638°
Location: Belmont &#124; Moon Altitude: 6.984°
Location: Nebraska &#124; Moon Altitude: 14.029°
Location: Grand Forks &#124; Moon Altitude: 11.072°
Location: Florida &#124; Moon Altitude: 16.518°
Location: Broadbeach &#124; Moon Altitude: 22.656°
Location: Michigan &#124; Moon Altitude: 6.013°
Location: Elwood &#124; Moon Altitude: 9.293°
Location: East Helena &#124; Moon Altitude: 12.462°
Location: Jacksonville &#124; Moon Altitude: 14.647°
Location: Taranaki &#124; Moon Altitude: 42.350°
Location: Mississippi &#124; Moon Altitude: 17.350°
Location: Sonora &#124; Moon Altitude: 22.256°
Location: Pakenham &#124; Moon Altitude: 19.893°
Location: Brisbane &#124; Moon Altitude: 22.118°
Location: Friendswood &#124; Moon Altitude: 22.543°
Location: Owasso &#124; Moon Altitude: 17.084°
Location: Houston &#124; Moon Altitude: 22.420°
Location: Canberra &#124; Moon Altitude: 21.703°
Location: Christchurch &#124; Moon Altitude: 41.192°
Location: Barham &#124; Moon Altitude: 17.993°
Location: Flint &#124; Moon Altitude: 6.147°
Location: West Virginia &#124; Moon Altitude: 7.870°
Location: Guadalajara &#124; Moon Altitude: 34.004°
Location: Kentucky &#124; Moon Altitude: 10.453°
Location: Madison Heights &#124; Moon Altitude: 6.277°
Location: Tecumseh &#124; Moon Altitude: 18.409°
Location: Heber City &#124; Moon Altitude: 18.222°
Location: Bend &#124; Moon Altitude: 16.314°
Location: Saint John&#039;s &#124; Moon Altitude: 9.270°
Location: Joliet &#124; Moon Altitude: 9.330°
Location: Gold Coast &#124; Moon Altitude: 22.625°
Location: Goose Creek &#124; Moon Altitude: 11.759°
Location: American Fork &#124; Moon Altitude: 18.426°
Location: Baytown &#124; Moon Altitude: 22.262°
Location: 111 Mile House &#124; Moon Altitude: 8.644°
Location: Louisville &#124; Moon Altitude: 10.842°
Location: Battle Ground &#124; Moon Altitude: 14.705°
Location: Lebanon &#124; Moon Altitude: 9.155°
Location: Salt Lake City &#124; Moon Altitude: 18.077°
Location: Hartville &#124; Moon Altitude: 14.812°
Location: Red Deer &#124; Moon Altitude: 7.284°
Location: Athens &#124; Moon Altitude: 14.162°
Location: Springfield &#124; Moon Altitude: 16.490°
Location: Wendell &#124; Moon Altitude: 8.780°
Location: Victoria &#124; Moon Altitude: 12.123°
Location: North Carolina &#124; Moon Altitude: 9.163°
Location: Alberta &#124; Moon Altitude: 6.029°
Location: Mayfield &#124; Moon Altitude: 13.442°
Location: Queensland &#124; Moon Altitude: 12.698°
Location: Sullivan County &#124; Moon Altitude: 10.444°]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Location: Western Suburbs | Moon Altitude: 19.193°<br />
Location: Melbourne | Moon Altitude: 19.414°<br />
Location: West Palm Beach | Moon Altitude: 16.295°<br />
Location: Bairnsdale | Moon Altitude: 21.391°<br />
Location: Izard County | Moon Altitude: 15.451°<br />
Location: Bethania | Moon Altitude: 22.306°<br />
Location: Jasper | Moon Altitude: 13.094°<br />
Location: Stark County | Moon Altitude: 6.593°<br />
Location: Post Falls | Moon Altitude: 12.182°<br />
Location: O‘ahu | Moon Altitude: 32.447°<br />
Location: Mesa | Moon Altitude: 25.131°<br />
Location: Nowra | Moon Altitude: 22.715°<br />
Location: Dunedin | Moon Altitude: 39.707°<br />
Location: Central Illinois | Moon Altitude: 11.038°<br />
Location: Palmerston North | Moon Altitude: 43.317°<br />
Location: Oklahoma | Moon Altitude: 18.691°<br />
Location: Gisborne | Moon Altitude: 45.121°<br />
Location: Cairns | Moon Altitude: 11.673°<br />
Location: East Tennessee | Moon Altitude: 11.574°<br />
Location: Wellington | Moon Altitude: 42.720°<br />
Location: St. Louis | Moon Altitude: 12.638°<br />
Location: Belmont | Moon Altitude: 6.984°<br />
Location: Nebraska | Moon Altitude: 14.029°<br />
Location: Grand Forks | Moon Altitude: 11.072°<br />
Location: Florida | Moon Altitude: 16.518°<br />
Location: Broadbeach | Moon Altitude: 22.656°<br />
Location: Michigan | Moon Altitude: 6.013°<br />
Location: Elwood | Moon Altitude: 9.293°<br />
Location: East Helena | Moon Altitude: 12.462°<br />
Location: Jacksonville | Moon Altitude: 14.647°<br />
Location: Taranaki | Moon Altitude: 42.350°<br />
Location: Mississippi | Moon Altitude: 17.350°<br />
Location: Sonora | Moon Altitude: 22.256°<br />
Location: Pakenham | Moon Altitude: 19.893°<br />
Location: Brisbane | Moon Altitude: 22.118°<br />
Location: Friendswood | Moon Altitude: 22.543°<br />
Location: Owasso | Moon Altitude: 17.084°<br />
Location: Houston | Moon Altitude: 22.420°<br />
Location: Canberra | Moon Altitude: 21.703°<br />
Location: Christchurch | Moon Altitude: 41.192°<br />
Location: Barham | Moon Altitude: 17.993°<br />
Location: Flint | Moon Altitude: 6.147°<br />
Location: West Virginia | Moon Altitude: 7.870°<br />
Location: Guadalajara | Moon Altitude: 34.004°<br />
Location: Kentucky | Moon Altitude: 10.453°<br />
Location: Madison Heights | Moon Altitude: 6.277°<br />
Location: Tecumseh | Moon Altitude: 18.409°<br />
Location: Heber City | Moon Altitude: 18.222°<br />
Location: Bend | Moon Altitude: 16.314°<br />
Location: Saint John&#8217;s | Moon Altitude: 9.270°<br />
Location: Joliet | Moon Altitude: 9.330°<br />
Location: Gold Coast | Moon Altitude: 22.625°<br />
Location: Goose Creek | Moon Altitude: 11.759°<br />
Location: American Fork | Moon Altitude: 18.426°<br />
Location: Baytown | Moon Altitude: 22.262°<br />
Location: 111 Mile House | Moon Altitude: 8.644°<br />
Location: Louisville | Moon Altitude: 10.842°<br />
Location: Battle Ground | Moon Altitude: 14.705°<br />
Location: Lebanon | Moon Altitude: 9.155°<br />
Location: Salt Lake City | Moon Altitude: 18.077°<br />
Location: Hartville | Moon Altitude: 14.812°<br />
Location: Red Deer | Moon Altitude: 7.284°<br />
Location: Athens | Moon Altitude: 14.162°<br />
Location: Springfield | Moon Altitude: 16.490°<br />
Location: Wendell | Moon Altitude: 8.780°<br />
Location: Victoria | Moon Altitude: 12.123°<br />
Location: North Carolina | Moon Altitude: 9.163°<br />
Location: Alberta | Moon Altitude: 6.029°<br />
Location: Mayfield | Moon Altitude: 13.442°<br />
Location: Queensland | Moon Altitude: 12.698°<br />
Location: Sullivan County | Moon Altitude: 10.444°</p>
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		By: Henrik Amberla		</title>
		<link>https://journalofgeocentriccosmology.org/2024/06/25/observational-evidence-for-flat-earth-analyzing-the-visibility-of-the-full-moon-on-june-22-2024/#comment-163</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Henrik Amberla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To anyone who&#039;s ever observed anything in the sky, it should be obvious that nine degrees is nowhere near the limit of what is visible in the horizon. Even with trees or buildings in the distance two degrees is more realistic. Maybe run your program again but try zero degrees? Or maybe spend some quality time away from the internet and looking at beautiful stars.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To anyone who&#8217;s ever observed anything in the sky, it should be obvious that nine degrees is nowhere near the limit of what is visible in the horizon. Even with trees or buildings in the distance two degrees is more realistic. Maybe run your program again but try zero degrees? Or maybe spend some quality time away from the internet and looking at beautiful stars.</p>
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		By: Dr. Steven Alonzo (B.Sc. in Geocentric Cosmology)		</title>
		<link>https://journalofgeocentriccosmology.org/2024/06/25/observational-evidence-for-flat-earth-analyzing-the-visibility-of-the-full-moon-on-june-22-2024/#comment-162</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr. Steven Alonzo (B.Sc. in Geocentric Cosmology)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2024 01:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Peer Review  Robert Morphis

Steven Alonzo Go to mooncalc.org
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At 9:00 AM UTC the moon has an altitude below 10 degrees at those sites, I only say one above 9 degrees.
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Your program filtered those out.
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Your web site says:
&quot;Determine moon visibility based on a tilt of 9 degrees from the horizon&quot;
Somebody else posted the following link, it says:
&quot;altitude thresholds (10 degrees for the Moon&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peer Review  Robert Morphis</p>
<p>Steven Alonzo Go to mooncalc.org<br />
&#8211;<br />
At 9:00 AM UTC the moon has an altitude below 10 degrees at those sites, I only say one above 9 degrees.<br />
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Your program filtered those out.<br />
&#8211;<br />
Your web site says:<br />
&#8220;Determine moon visibility based on a tilt of 9 degrees from the horizon&#8221;<br />
Somebody else posted the following link, it says:<br />
&#8220;altitude thresholds (10 degrees for the Moon&#8221;</p>
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		By: Dr. Steven Alonzo (B.Sc. in Geocentric Cosmology)		</title>
		<link>https://journalofgeocentriccosmology.org/2024/06/25/observational-evidence-for-flat-earth-analyzing-the-visibility-of-the-full-moon-on-june-22-2024/#comment-161</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr. Steven Alonzo (B.Sc. in Geocentric Cosmology)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2024 01:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Peer Review Dave Thomas

Steven Alonzo, There are some serious problems with your website and analysis.
(1) There is a link supposedly to &quot;Excel file with detailed observation data and analysis results.&quot;, but the file only contains Location name, longitude, and latitude. There are no detailed observation data and results.
(2) Lack of documentation. For something so momentous as to overturn centuries of accepted science, why isn&#039;t there a detailed photograph of the moon, with proof of location and time, for each of the supposed anomalies?
(3) I picked the West Virginia location at random. This is supposedly where the moon was seen at 9:00 UTC on June 22, 2024, at location W80.4549026, N38.5976262. Your claim is that this is one the locations where the &quot; full moon should not have been visible according to the globe model.&quot; But that&#039;s wrong. Look at the diagram I made with the assistance of www dot mooncalc dot org. I put in the precise location and time specified, and find that the moon IS VISIBLE at 5:00 AM (UTC-4). in fact, the moon doesn&#039;t even set until an hour later, at 6:00AM local time. At 9:00 UTC (5 AM local time) the moon is 7.89 degrees in elevation, more than enough to be seen in reality, but JUST BELOW THE ARBITRARY 9 DEGREE CUTOFF for your &quot;ANALYSIS.&quot; That amounts to simple deception - you claim the globe model demands the moon NOT be seen, when the opposite is clearly true.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peer Review Dave Thomas</p>
<p>Steven Alonzo, There are some serious problems with your website and analysis.<br />
(1) There is a link supposedly to &#8220;Excel file with detailed observation data and analysis results.&#8221;, but the file only contains Location name, longitude, and latitude. There are no detailed observation data and results.<br />
(2) Lack of documentation. For something so momentous as to overturn centuries of accepted science, why isn&#8217;t there a detailed photograph of the moon, with proof of location and time, for each of the supposed anomalies?<br />
(3) I picked the West Virginia location at random. This is supposedly where the moon was seen at 9:00 UTC on June 22, 2024, at location W80.4549026, N38.5976262. Your claim is that this is one the locations where the &#8221; full moon should not have been visible according to the globe model.&#8221; But that&#8217;s wrong. Look at the diagram I made with the assistance of www dot mooncalc dot org. I put in the precise location and time specified, and find that the moon IS VISIBLE at 5:00 AM (UTC-4). in fact, the moon doesn&#8217;t even set until an hour later, at 6:00AM local time. At 9:00 UTC (5 AM local time) the moon is 7.89 degrees in elevation, more than enough to be seen in reality, but JUST BELOW THE ARBITRARY 9 DEGREE CUTOFF for your &#8220;ANALYSIS.&#8221; That amounts to simple deception &#8211; you claim the globe model demands the moon NOT be seen, when the opposite is clearly true.</p>
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		By: Dr. Steven Alonzo (B.Sc. in Geocentric Cosmology)		</title>
		<link>https://journalofgeocentriccosmology.org/2024/06/25/observational-evidence-for-flat-earth-analyzing-the-visibility-of-the-full-moon-on-june-22-2024/#comment-160</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr. Steven Alonzo (B.Sc. in Geocentric Cosmology)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2024 01:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Peer Review Simon Richards

Why did you allow a &quot;tilt&quot; of 9° above the horizon to forecast visibility when the moon only has an angular size of about 0.5°? This would suggest to me it would be fully visible if just 0.25° above the horizon, and that the 9° is 36x too much. Wouldn&#039;t this result in forecasts of non-visibility when the moon would in fact be visible, creating the very results you use to conclude the earth is not a globe ... ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peer Review Simon Richards</p>
<p>Why did you allow a &#8220;tilt&#8221; of 9° above the horizon to forecast visibility when the moon only has an angular size of about 0.5°? This would suggest to me it would be fully visible if just 0.25° above the horizon, and that the 9° is 36x too much. Wouldn&#8217;t this result in forecasts of non-visibility when the moon would in fact be visible, creating the very results you use to conclude the earth is not a globe &#8230; ?</p>
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